Origin of the Magenis Name

The modern spelling of this name is usually MacGuinness or MacGenis but in the historical records in English they are as a rule Magennis or Magenis, a form still to be found in some places today. In Irish the name is MagAonghusa, i.e. son of Angus. They are descended from Saran, chief of Dal Araidhe in St. Patrick's time and thence to Eochaidh Cobha of Iveagh, County Down. Like the chiefs of many of the great Irish septs Magennis took advantage of the English policy of "surrender and regrant" warly in the seventeenth century; earlier they were often at loggerheads with the ecclesiatical authorities and they showed a tendency to accept the tenets of the Reformation; conforming bishops include two Magennisses - one of the diocess of Down, the other of Dromore. However, by 1598 the Magennis chief of the time, whoe father was officially regarded as "the civillest of all the Irish in these parts," had joined Yyrone (who was his brother-in-law) and thus "returned to the rudeness of the country." A generation later their loyalty to Ireland and the ancient faith was undoubted. The Franciscan Bishop of Down and Connor, Hugh Magennis (d. 1640), was closely related to Viscount Iveagh and many of the Gaelic nobility of Ulster. They were consistently on the Irish side during the resistance to English aggression in that century and after the disasters following the battle of Boyne they were finally dispossessed of their wide patrimony in Co. Down, much of which had been planted with English (not Scottish) settlers after the Cromwellian war. Many of them took service as Wild Geese. The best known of these was Brian Magennis, second Viscount Iveagh, who was colonel of Iveagh's Regiment in the Austrian Imperial Army and was killed in action in 1703. His brother Roger Magennis, third Viscount (d. 1709), served both France and Spain with distinction. The present Lord Iveagh (of the second creation), head of the largest brewery concern in the world - Guinness of Dublin - though not a direct descendant of the lords of Iveagh mentioned above, belongs to a cognate family of Co. Down, This family spent very large sums on improvement of housing and social conditions in the city of Dublin as well as on the upkeep of St. Patricks Cathedral and its surrounding.
14 - 18 May 1790 
  married =Marmion,James/Mr. +Mourne =Magenis,Jane/Miss niece =Magenis,Roger
THE BELFAST NEWSLETTER INDEX, 1737-1800
Marriage of Arthur's parents
Householder Lists, South Down 1848
BALLYLOUGH


1 Arthur Magenis
2 Denis O’Hare
3 Terence Rafferty
4 John O’Hare
5 John McCourt
6 Mrs Ravey
7 Mrs Henry Larkin
8 Patrick O’Hare (Square)
9 David Hanlon
10 Charles Larkin
11 Patrick Books
12 James Murtagh
13 Arthur Larkin
14 William O’Hare (Square)
15 Luke McCamly



from PRONI:
More Co. Down estate papers

Less sensationally, D/1503 also includes: plans, correspondence, etc, relating to improvements at Newcastle harbour, c.1840-1902; the building contract for Castlewellan Castle, 1856; and an award, etc, relating to the Castlewellan Extension of the Great Northern Railway, 1900-1903. In addition, PRONI holds photocopies (T/1972, T/2088, T/2209 and T/2215) of the following maps: 3 volumes of maps, etc, of Arthur Magenis's estate at Castlewellan, 1727; map, etc, of Edward Mathews' estate at Newcastle, 1737; a map of Earl Annesley's Castlewellan demesne, surveyed by James Forsyth, 1810; maps of Earl Annesley's estate in the Ballyward area, Co. Down, 1814-1816; a volume of maps of turf bogs on the Annesley estates in the Castlewellan and Newcastle areas, 1832; and 3 maps of the Newcastle estate, c.1850.
Arthur's wife Mary E Magenis obit att.
Remember Henry Marmion married Agnes Laverly (and we know they were from Down)..and lived in Kansas City MO..you took a picture of their Tombstone....well Look..a Laverly/Magenis connection

Lavery, Margaret Birth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1871
Father: Edward Lavery
Mother: Mary Magenis

here are more Magenis:
Macken, Catherine Birth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 20 May 1871
Father: John Macken
Mother: Mary Magenis

Magenis, Edward William Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1870
Father: John Magenis
Mother: Annie Elizabeth McKenigney

Magenis, Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1871
Mother: Margaret Magenis

Magenis, Margaret Birth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1871
Father: Arthur Magenis
Mother: Margaret McMahon
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And this is what I think Mary Macdonell told Alfred Marmion..and it wasconfused!

Magenis, Sir Arthur Charles (1801-1867),
British diplomat. Attached to mission in Berlin (1825); attaché in St Petersburg (1830); secretary of legation in Switzerland (1838); secretary of embassy in Austria (1844); minister plenipotentiary to the Swiss Confederation (1851); envoy extraordinary and minister plenipotentiary to Württemberg (1852), to Sweden and Norway (1854), and to Lisbon (1859-1866).
British Envoys to Germany,  Vol. II, pp. 525-529
Vol. III, pp. 6, 13, 98, 305, 406, 410-411, 413-417, 432-434, 443-455 


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in MO:
BENTON, Thomas Hart and Elizabeth. ADs. 5 November, 1835. Approximately 9-3/4" x 7-3/4", one page. Quite fragile: separating at folds, a little chipped and browning at outer edges.
Act of emancipation, signed by the famous statesman Thomas Hart Benton and his wife Elizabeth, emancipating their 41-year old slave Sarah after approximately 14 years of "long and faithful services".


"We, Thomas H. Benton & Elizabeth Benton, in consideration of long & faithful services, did, upwards of a year ago, set free the bearer, Sarah, a black woman, aged about forty one years, and our slave at that time; in confirmation of which we do now deliver this act of emancipation. The said Sarah was born in Virginia, in the family of Col.. James McDowell, and came with us to the State of Missouri, in the year 1821, as our slave; she is an honest, sober and industrious woman, always a house servant, and is a good seamstress, washer & ironer. She was married some years ago to Daniel, formerly the slave of Mrs. Ann Benton, now belonging to W. Charles Cabanne, and is now his wife. Given under our hands & seals at St. Louis, this 5th day of November in the year 1835. Thomas H. Benton (Seal). Elizabeth Benton (Seal).
Also signed, sealed & in presence of three witnesses A. Rutland, Arthur L. Magenis, J. (Joshua).B. Brant. On verso signed by the Clerk, Archibald Gamble. Docketed "Filed 11 November, 1835" with the embossed "St. Louis Country Circuit Court Seal".

Thomas Hart Benton is one of the most famous citizens in the history of Missouri. At the time of this document Benton had been in Congress for 14 years. His wife, Elizabeth, was from a prominent Virginia family. There is a very interesting circular sidelight to this manumission. Sarah, the ex-slave referred to in this document was, from birth, the property of Elizabeth Benton's father, Colonel James McDowell. Sarah's husband, the slave named Daniel in the above document, had been the property of Mrs. Ann Benton, Thomas Hart Benton's mother.

According to the Dictionary of American Biography Benton's "views on slavery ... materially changed. While in 1820 he had opposed all slavery restriction in Missouri by 1828 he had come to favour gradual abolition". During the battle to retain or repeal the prohibition of slavery contained in the Missouri Compromise, Benton led the fight to oppose repeal. $5,000.00. #8324

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Arthur Marmion's Cousin (son of his 1st cousin Arthur...........his son Arthur (2nd Cousin)
5. Arthur L. Magenis to Poinsett, February 8, 1840 printed in Army and
Navy Chronicle, X, 115. Mr. Magenis, of St. Louis, Missouri, visited
Tallahassee and gave Poinsett a verbal and written report concerning
the bloodhounds.
5. Arthur L. Magenis to Poinsett, February 8, 1840 printed in Army and
Navy Chronicle, X, 115. Mr. Magenis, of St. Louis, Missouri, visited
Tallahassee and gave Poinsett a verbal and written report concerning
the bloodhounds.
5. Arthur L. Magenis to Poinsett, February 8, 1840 printed in Army and
Navy Chronicle, X, 115. Mr. Magenis, of St. Louis, Missouri, visited
Tallahassee and gave Poinsett a verbal and written report concerning
the bloodhounds.
Arthur L Magenis to Poinsett. Feb 8, 1840 printed in Army and Navy Chronicle X, 115. Mr Magenis of St Louis. Missouri . visited Tallahassee and gave Poinsett a verbal and written report concerning the bloodhounds.
These dogs were purchased in Matanza Cuba and used in the Indian Wars in Florida. Joel Poinsett was Sec of War 1834 to 1841. The dogs greatly aided the end of the wars there.

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Note: In the case files there are two folders; one with a list of correspondents and transcriptions of their letters; another with a list of Story manuscript holdings at the University of Texas.
1-29 Magenis, Arthur L., s.a.
http://oasis.harvard.edu:10080/oasis/deliver/~law00104

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more on the envoy
Arthur C. Meginis
Bu 10/5         18.7.1859                   Letter from H. Howard, Lisbon, Portugal to A.
                                            Buchanan, Madrid, Spain; 18 Jul 1859.
                                           
                                            Acknowledges his letters and has forwarded the
                                            information to Mr Stuart; has visited the King
                                            following the death of the Queen of Portugal, who
                                            had been ill with diphtheria; the King asked him to
                                            write to Queen Victoria on his behalf; thinks that
                                            Mr Stuart will enjoy his move to Naples, which is
                                            an easy step to Paris, where, he concludes, Grey
                                            will not stay long; asks what Lumley will say to St
                                            Petersburg; Lord Malmesbury had offered him a
                                            transfer to Hanover; had communicated with Lord
                                            John Russell and discovered that [Arthur C.]
                                            Magenis was to succeed him in Lisbon, having
                                            refused Copenhagen; suggests that Magenis had not
                                            been treated well by Malmesbury. 4 ff

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this is our Arthur's cousins .......
MAGENIS, ARTHUR J
Lieutenant-Colonel—Enlisted at a camp near Little Rock, Arkansas, October 1, 1862; age 28; relieved by election, November 28, 1863.
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Magenis Anne   Widow 310
Magenis Arth.    310
Magenis Arthur    310
Magenis Bryan Oge M'Brown    310
Magenis Daniel M.   Esq. 310
Magenis Daniel   Esq. 311
Magenis Hugh Col.    311
Magenis Hugh Fitzjohn    311
Magenis John M.    311
Magenis Mary   Widow 311
Magenis Phelemy   Esq. 311
Magenis Richard    311
Magenis Roger    311
Mageniss Thomas    311

above from: http://www.eiretek.org/chapters/lee/vicar/vicarsm.htm
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NRA 23648
Sir Arthur Charles Magenis: diplomatic and personal papers (confidential)
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5 Oct. 1756 3 set 1 Nov. lands +Linish +Ballywilly +Stranagh +Ballykeel +Drumbenue. barony
+Upper!Iveagh Co. +Down +Rathfryland +Newry market towns. River Ban mills
bleach-greens turf weavers dealers linen. =Magenis,John +Cabra
=Magenis,Arthur/Dr. +Drogheda 1.
ADLAND
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Robert Plunkett, 6th Earl of Fingall (d 31.01.1738/9)
  m. Mary Magenis (dau of Roger Magnis of Iveagh)
  (i) Arthur James Plunkett, 7th Earl of Fingall (b 25.07.1731, d 21.08.1793)
  m. (19.03.1755) Henrietta Maria Wollascot (d 12.04.1808, dau of william Wollascot of Woolhampton)
  (a) Arthur James Plunkett, 8th Earl of Fingall (b 09.09.1759, d 30.07.1836)
  m. (18.12.1785) Francis Donelan (b 26.03.1766, d 30.01.1835, dau of John Donelan of Ballydonelan)
  ((1)) Arthur James Plunkett, 9th Earl of Fingall (b 29.03.1791, d 22.04.1869) had issue
  m. (11.12.1817) Louisa Emilia Corbally (b c1796, d 07.04.1866, dau of Elias Corbally of Corbalton Hall)
  ((2)) Harriet Plunkett (d 22.03.1871)
 

http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/pp/plunkett3.htm


Magenis, Roger, Ballely, Dromore Magistrate in the County Down Directory 1862
From Thom's Irish Almanac and Official Directory for the Year 1862



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Magenis            R. H.                                              193     Antrim
Magenis            R. H.                                              193     Antrim
from Land Owners in Ireland, 1876 - Antrim

Office bearers, Down County Directory (from Bassett's County Down Guide and Directory, 1886) Magenis, Dr. Edw., Lurgan MAGISTRATE
Marriage of Arthur's parents
Marriage of Arthur's parents